Comments Policy

Posted November 18, 2009 by JGIG
Categories: Christianity, Humor, Uncategorized

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Comments are welcome at JGIG!

A few of the comments I’ve received at JGIG lately made me realize that a comment policy was long overdue.  Unfortunately I did have to go to moderated comments last year when some abusive stuff came through =o( .  So here’s the scoop:

- Please comment on issues related  to a specific post.  Some like to vent their frustration with this blog by picking a post and letting loose with an ad hom tirade, not addressing ANY points in the post on which they’ve chosen to ‘comment’.

- Some who are in the Hebrew Roots/Messianic Judaism streams of thought like to pontificate on their entire belief system in the comments section.  Comments are for discussion.  If you have that much to say, start your own blog.  I’ve gotten comments here as long as 6000 words.  Seriously.

- Think of commenting as a conversation.  Would you talk for 6000 words non-stop in a conversation?  Well, maybe you would, but don’t do it here.

- Dissent is welcome here.  Dissenting comments will be approved.  Even ad hom stuff will  be approved.  Just keep it of a reasonable length and at least loosely related to the content of the post on which you’ve chosen to comment.

- Obviously no abusive language or vulgar personal attacks will be entertained here at JGIG.  There is no profit for anyone in reading that stuff.

- No plagiarizing.  If you want to quote something or use another source to make your point, that’s fine.  Just cite your source.

- Comments building on the content of the post and edifying comments will be approved =o).

- Encouragement to the author will also be approved =o).

- Note that this entire post (not including the cartoon) is less than 300 words long.

Thanks, guys.  This information can also be found on a ‘Comments Policy’ page in the sidebar for future reference.

- JGIG

Getting to Know You

Posted October 22, 2009 by JGIG
Categories: Christianity, Hebraic Roots, Hebrew Roots Movement, Messianic Judaism, Poll, Religion, Uncategorized

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Dear Readers,

It’s been a busy time for me with the events of the Spring and Summer.   Surprisingly, even though I’ve not had time to post here recently,  more and more people are finding JGIG. 

I thought it might be interesting to learn a little about the readers here.  There’s already a map index2on the sidebar with little red dots showing where many of you visit from (wow you guys are ALL over the place!) which my children think is way cool =o) (me too). 

But I thought it would be interesting to see why you visit, as well.

Please check all of  the applicable boxes on the poll ( you can check up to 5 boxes), then click on the “vote” button.   And just like the dots on the map, your answers are totally anonymous.  Feel free to comment as well, if you think I should add an option to the list on the poll, have a suggestion for another poll, or just want to say ‘hi’!  

I’m curious to see how this turns out.  Thanks for participating!

Blessings,
-JGIG

Edited 10/23 – I removed the first time/repeat visitors questions as they were skewing the overall percentages.  I added a separate poll in the sidebar for visitors info.  Thanks!   

New Baby!

Posted July 27, 2009 by JGIG
Categories: Family Matters, Uncategorized

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We have welcomed a new little baby into our family, a sweet little girl =o).  She is much loved and loved-on by her parents and siblings.  Being the mom of a newborn, of course my time is long on snuggling and caring for this new wee one and short for most everything else.newborn

I’ll continue to moderate comments here at JGIG, so feel free to leave your input on the posts you read.  I’ll get back to posting when life gets a bit less hectic.  For now, I’m just going to take joy in this new little life that’s sweetly sleeping on my shoulder . . .

Grace and peace,
-JGIG

Hebrew Roots Movement – The Use of Midrash

Posted June 22, 2009 by JGIG
Categories: "Law Keepers", Discernment, Grace and Law, Hebraic Roots, Hebrew Roots Movement, Messianic Judaism, Religion, Teachable/Unteachable

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Something that comes up repeatedly when one is exposed to those in the Hebrew Roots/Messianic Judaism movements is their primary method of interpreting Scripture called “midrash”.   In various venues I’ve seen those in the HR/MJ camp invoke superior knowledge and insight rendered by the use of midrash, which they imply means “context” -  just from a decidedly Jewish point of view.  They appeal to the Christian believer’s affinity for context by saying things like, “The Scriptures were written by Hebrews, about Hebrews, for Hebrews”, making their approach seem to make perfect sense.  Never mind that if we really look at the actual context of several of the Epistles, the “by Hebrews, about Hebrews, for Hebrews” shtick doesn’t hold up.  But I digress.

After all, as Christian believers, we’re all for looking at the Scriptures in context!  Considering a Scripture passage’s author, time of writing, the history of the day, who the passage was written to/about, the cultural traditions/implications of all of those things, etc., etc. - we find that those things give us a better understanding of many biblical texts.  For those who are serious about understanding the Scriptures, well, context is our thing!

That said . . .

While context may or not be an element of midrash, it is at best a fragmentary element, as you will see below.  As you will also see below, even if a midrash does contain even an element of context, the subjectivity of midrash cancels out any context because of that subjectivity!  Add to that the rabbinic prejudices and the potential mystical components of midrash, and, well . . . just keep reading . . .

Let’s look at just what is Midrash:

From Faqs.org:
Midrash minimizes the authority of the wording of the text as communication, normal language. It places the focus on the reader and the personal struggle of the reader to reach an acceptable moral application of the text. While it is always governed by the wording of the text, it allows for the reader to project his or her inner struggle into the text. This allows for some very powerful and moving interpretations which, to the ordinary user of language, seem to have very little connection with the text. The great weakness of this method is that it always threatens to replace the text with an outpouring of personal reflection. At its best it requires the presence of mystical insight not given to all readers.

From Wikipedia:
Midrash (Hebrew: מדרש‎; plural midrashim, lit. “to investigate” or “study”) is a Hebrew term referring to the not exact, but comparative (homiletic) method of exegesis (hermeneutic) of Biblical texts, which is one of four methods cumulatively called Pardes.  The term midrash can also refer to a compilation of homiletic teachings (commentaries) on the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible), in the form of legal and ritual (Halakhah) and legendary, moralizing, folkloristic, and anecdotal (Aggadah) parts.

What is PaRDeS? Also from Wikipedia:
The term, sometimes also spelled PaRDeS, is an acronym formed from the name initials of these four approaches, which are:

  • Peshat (פְּשָׁט) — “plain” (simple) or the direct meaning.
  • Remez (רֶמֶז) — “hints” or the deep (allegoric) meaning beyond just the literal sense.
  • Derash (דְּרַשׁ) — from Hebrew darash: “inquire” (seek) — the comparative (midrashic) meaning, as given through similar occurrences.
  • Sod (סוֹד) (pronounced with a long O as in gold) — “secret” (mystery) or the mystical meaning, as given through inspiration or revelation.

Each type of Pardes interpretation examines the extended meaning of a text. As a general rule, the extended meaning never contradicts the base meaning. The Peshat means the plain or contextual meaning of the text. Remez is the allegorical meaning. Derash includes the metaphorical meaning, and Sod represents the hidden meaning. There is often considerable overlap, for example when legal understandings of a verse are influenced by mystical interpretations or when a “hint” is determined by comparing a word with other instances of the same word.

From My Jewish Learning:
Midrash: The Interpretive Tradition
Midrash is a tool of interpretation which assumes that every word, letter, and even stroke of the pen in the Torah has meaning. Midrash Aggadah focuses on biblical narratives, Midrash Halakhah interprets legal passages. In modern times, midrash can include any retellings, additions, or twists on Torah stories.

From Jewish Virtual Library’s Glossary:
Midrash
(pl. midrashim). From darash, “to inquire,” whence it comes to mean “exposition” (of scripture). Refers to the “commentary” literature developed in classical Judaism that attempts to interpret Jewish scriptures in a thorough manner. Literary Midrash may focus either on halaka, directing the Jew to specific patterns of religious practice, or on (h)aggada, dealing with theological ideas, ethical teachings, popular philosophy, imaginative exposition, legend, allegory, animal fables—that is, whatever is not halaka.

From VirtualReligion.net:
Midrash
Hebrew term for “Interpretation” or “Exposition.” The word generally used for any written or oral commentary on a biblical text. The original purpose of midrash was to resolve problems in the Hebrew text of the Bible. As early as the 1st c. CE rabbinic principles of hermeneutics & philology were used to bring the interpretation of difficult passages in the literal text of scripture into line with the religious & ethical values of the teachers. This method of interpretation was eventually expanded to provide scriptural pretexts to justify oral tradition. Thus, midrash exposes the values & worldview of the rabbinic interpreter & audience rather than the original intention of the author of the biblical text.

There is more information about midrash online and a myriad of websites out there with “midrashic” points of view, but one gets the general idea from the references above.

When one uses a midrash as a lens through which to interpret Scripture, based on the above it is likely that that person is seeking to mold Scripture to a predetermined opinion or belief system, rather than seeking to mold their opinion or belief system to what Scripture actually says.  Even if one is sincere in their desire to seek truth using midrash, the method of midrash is fundamentally flawed, from its subjective nature (not to mention its rabbinic prejudice) to the possibility of mystical influence.

It is also interesting to note the Scripture passages that are targeted for midrash within the HR/MJ belief system.  Those passages are not limited to Hebrew Scriptures (the Old Testament) as with Judaism, but are often those New Testament Scriptures (which were written in Greek) that deal with issues such as the Old and New Covenants, whether or not those who have faith in Jesus Christ are or are not subject to the Law of Moses, even the issue of the Deity of Jesus Christ.  The list goes on, and the topics subjected to midrashic methods typically line up with the basic tenets of Christianity in an effort to tear them down or “modify” them one by one.  A number of HR/MJ teachers and lay people even claim that the New Testament was written in Hebrew in an attempt to justify their use of midrashic techniques. 

So if someone is trying to tell you that midrash is a “Bible study” or that it is looking at the Scriptures “in context”, or that midrash is simply looking at Scripture from a “Jewish perspective as opposed to our Western mindset”, don’t buy it.  Those telling you such things likely believe them to be true - I don’t doubt the sincerity of most folks who are in the HR/MJ movements.  But if you go to the simple definitions of midrash, its origins, and read what leadership influencing those in the HR/MJ movements has to say about and how they use midrash, deep flaws in the use of such a subjective method of interpretation comes into focus.

For further reading related to this topic, see

Doublemindedness in the Hebrew Roots Movement – The Use of Kabbalah and Gemetria

Hebrew Roots Movement – Messin’ With the Word

Hebrew Roots Movement – The Issue of Hellenization

Hebrew Roots Movement – Salesmanship 101

May God grant you wisdom and discernment as you consider all of these things.

-JGIG

Augh!!

Posted June 20, 2009 by JGIG
Categories: Uncategorized

Hi All,

I just noticed that my “Pages” section on the sidebar was missing.  Don’t know how, when, or for how long it’s been missing.  I would look at JGIG every now and then and it looked funny to me, but I couldn’t put my finger on it . . . until I tried to look something up on one of my pages!  And they weren’t there!

I’ve restored them (SO glad they just didn’t disappear altogether!), though not in my preferred order.  I’ll play with it and get it back the way it was when I have more time.

Sorry if it caused any frustration out there . . . some of these pages are meant to be a resource for those of you being touched by the Hebrew Roots/Messianic Judaism movements.  Please let me know if you notice anything “off” about the format here . . . I’ve been pretty preoccupied of late and I of course, do have a touch of “pregnant brain” =o).

Grace and Peace,
-JGIG